Question about measuring method for HHO Aquacure inhalations hydrogen water
Hello Mister. asen tree,
The YouTube lectures are very informative, thank you very much for that. I built a device similar to the Aquacure for my own use because I developed rheumatoid arthritis and the pain wouldn't go away. I'm now in the 5th week of drinking the bubble water and breathing and it has actually brought about significant improvement. It is as if the levels of the disease develop backwards away from the bones (deepest level). I got severe hay fever again like I had before, then it went away, then itchy skin again for a few days and now it's all over and it's just getting a little better day by day. I had put a lot of strain on my body with extreme sports for decades and had probably generated a lot of ROS. I actually just wanted to install a hydrogen cell in my car again and then somehow came across the health sector through H2 or HHO.
So far I haven't found anywhere how you can really measure the saturation of the water, the 1,6 mg/l that is in the room for full saturation?
Tell me how you do that?
As further effects, I can also notice a significant increase in performance when doing sports. It's like the cells have more steam without everything having to come from breathing. I'm still a bit unsure about the cell, which runs on 80g NAOH as electrolyte, but I have 2 bubblers connected upstream with bubble stones and change the distillation there. Water if it has TDS > 70. The third bubbler is my drinking cup and then I inhale.
Which of your books would you recommend to me to better understand the technology and chemical processes?
I am an electrical engineer and worked for 20 years in MUC at BMW in the research center before I emigrated to Andalusia in Golden-Handshake.
Best regards
Dieter Baumgartner
Hello Mr. Baumgartner,
Thank you very much for your praise. I recommend you take a closer look at my list of links.
I have not yet published anything on HHO because, in contrast to H2, there is hardly any scientific literature about it and because my own measurements with the Aquacure and similar devices did not produce any results that make this technology particularly important. In particular, it is very, very difficult and time-consuming to produce well-saturated or even supersaturated hydrogen water by blowing HHO into water.
Your question about a measurement method is therefore very justified, but it will hardly get you any further, because the proponents of HHO such as Wiseman, Sircus and Jansen claim - without any evidence - that the H2 blue drops or MIZ Reagent or Jeudao H2 Measuring drops would not correctly display the hydrogen in HHO bubbled water. In any case, with HHO bubbling you will never achieve full saturation, even after several hours. The values after 30 minutes are below the minimum therapeutic level of 0,5 ppm.
However, such water still makes sense, since normal water does not contain any molecular hydrogen. So it can also work, but this has not yet been proven, in contrast to pure H2 water with full saturation (1,6 ppm) or more (up to 10 ppm), about which there are currently over 1000 publications. Nevertheless, your personal experiences show that an effect is at least noticeable.
Overall, HHO gas seems to me to be more suitable for inhalation. However, there is only evidence for pure H2/O2 mixtures. The HHO produced from a lye, for example from Aquacure, is not pure, but contains a number of unclear other components that can most likely be eliminated through the double filtering you mentioned and the associated cooling of the vapor mixture. Pure H2/O2 mixtures are generated by PEM cells and are currently used primarily in lung diseases such as COVID 19 with evident initial success. The presence of oxygen, the opposite gas to hydrogen, is not harmful because there is an oxygen exchange deficit in the inflamed lung. The hydrogen prevents the progression of the inflammation, which is promoted by increased oxygen.
If the oxygen requirement is not increased, I would always prefer pure H2 gas, as even a small increase in the oxygen content can cause many health problems. You have to imagine that people at 0 m above sea level have 21% oxygen in the air, while here in Munich at 530 m above sea level I have to make do with significantly less. Reinhold Messner even climbed Mt. Everest without an oxygen mask. Too little oxygen is rarely a problem. On the other hand, increased oxygen pressure, for example for divers below sea level, is an increased health risk. Deep divers get by with 4% oxygen and 96% hydrogen (Hydreliox). Oxygen promotes inflammation and is a dangerous gas that is used in very small doses and only briefly, even by medical professionals who work with hyperbaric oxygen.
The beginning of hydrogen therapy at the end of the 18th century, on the other hand, relied on reducing oxygen and increasing hydrogen as therapy. And I don't see anything in the medical literature today that points in a different direction.
If you want to measure the H2 concentration of your Recure replica, you can easily do so with the titration drops based on methylene blue, such as these, which are the easiest to use: www.aquacentrum.de/produkt/jeudao-wasserstoff-testfluessigkeit-durch-titrationsmethode/ But as I said: HHO water doesn't achieve any really interesting values. These would be over 1,6 ppm. Oxygen and hydrogen are gases that have opposite effects (oxidative-antioxidant). For saturated or highly saturated water you have to eliminate the dissolved oxygen. Otherwise there will be little therapeutic success. The reason why even HHO or H2/O2 water still has an effect is that one hydrogen molecule is always produced per water molecule, but only half an oxygen molecule. That's why the redox potential still remains nice and negative.
By the way, we also have a former BMW employee here who recently received the golden handshake in our Aquacentrum engineering office. He now assembles products that produce far more powerful hydrogen water than anything else on the market. Feel free to read more about it here. Ceramics have now conquered electrical engineering, just as a geothermal heat pump can replace nuclear power. 🙂
Greetings to Andalusia, where I want to travel again as soon as possible after receiving the second Covid vaccination at the end of June.
Kind regards /with kind regards
Karl Heinz Asenbaum
